The Truth? No, Your Opinions on Sodom

on 24 August 2009

Hey everyone, After watching the video hosted on Enigma's blog an Idea hit me. I have my opinions, you have yours. I want to gather as many varying opinions (supported by scripture, scriptorians, Prophets words, etc.) regarding WTH went down in Sodom. We all know the basic story and that we have the word Sodomy from that city of the plain, but I want to gather as many varying views as I can get on this subject.
If anyone reading my blog is a part f the NorthStar community, I want you to post this same statement and either have them report here, or present their ideas inside NorthStar and then have you post them here.
If anyone from Affirmation or Evergreen is reading this I would like your take on Sodom.
Any MoHo Blogger I want your view.
Any casual reader who may or may not be connected to either gay or LDS issues, I want your opinions too.

Please send them my way, either in comments or via email to, I look forward to reading them

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Scott said...

I've already discussed my thoughts on my blog.

Abelard Enigma said...

This is a topic that is of interest to gay Christians in general and not just gay Mormons. It's been discussed numerous times at the Gay Christian Network - I suggest you join GCN and then search their online forums to get some different perspectives.

derekstaff said...

A friend of mine gave me this link and suggested I share my thoughts. I believe there is no evidence that homosexuality played any meaningful role in the fall of Sodom and Gomorrah. I've found place in any of the scriptures (mainstream Christian canon or Mormon scripture) where it explicitly state that homosexuality was a cause for the destruction. There are plenty of vague allusions to perversion, but to definitively state those as evidence that homosexuality was the key factor is purely conjecture. The main story which people use to make that connection (the story of Lot, the heavenly messengers, and the threatening people of Sodom; Gen 19) isn't really about homosexuality. The men outside don't seem to be interested in emotional relationships with the messengers; they appear to be looking to establish dominance through rape, much like prison rape. One could certainly make the case that their sin was much more their delight in violence than the intent to engage in homosexual sex.

When the scriptures do specifically describe the causes for Sodom's destruction, they mention something else entirely.

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good. (Ezekial 16:49-50)

Ezekial specifically lists rampant pride and greed, idleness, and a lack of action on poverty and other social issues. Homosexuality is not specifically listed. Again and again in references to S&G we find references to their wealth, extravagance, pride, and their social inequality. So I believe we are in error to lay their fall at the feet of homosexuality.
Within the scriptures in general, there are only a couple scriptures which can be considered direct injunctions against homosexual activity. Many people judge the vague references to "unnatural affections" or "abominations" (such as in the above passage) to refer to homosexuality, but that is again simply conjecture. How do we know that these don't refer to bestiality, or pedophilia, or S&M, or rape--or perhaps nothing sexual whatsoever? The Lord has proven in the scriptures that he has no problem being blunt. Why then do we presume he is so delicate as to be so veiled in his talk on homosexuality? If homosexuality is as big an issue as we make it within the LDS Church, why then is there so few direct scriptural references to it, and none whatsoever in the BofM, the most true of any book? Based on the couple direct reprimands we have, perhaps homosexual activity is sinful--but given that there are well over a thousand scriptures on being charitable, shouldn't we focus more on that than on persecuting homosexual behavior?

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